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Mastering Platform Engineering: Insights from Camille Fournier

Camille Fournier is one of the most respected technology executives in the industry. As the former CTO of Rent the Runway and author of "The Manager's Path", she has extensive experience leading engineering teams and helping engineers grow their careers. In this article, we'll explore key insights from Camille on platform engineering, engineering leadership, and building effective teams.

Common Frustrations Between Product Managers and Engineers

Camille highlighted several common sources of friction between product managers (PMs) and engineers:

Hoarding Credit

Engineers sometimes feel PMs take too much credit for projects, especially when presenting to executives or customers. To avoid this, PMs should:

  • Make efforts to share credit and be inclusive of the engineering team
  • Give engineers opportunities to speak about their contributions when appropriate
  • Recognize that many people contributed to the project's success

Not Understanding Technical Details

When PMs act like technical details don't matter, it can be very off-putting to engineers. While PMs don't need to understand every detail, they should:

  • Show empathy for the complexity of the engineering work
  • Be patient and willing to listen when engineers explain technical challenges
  • Avoid dismissing details as unimportant, even if they don't fully grasp them

Playing "Telephone"

Constantly relaying messages between engineers and other stakeholders can be inefficient and frustrating. PMs should:

  • Connect engineers directly to stakeholders when appropriate, rather than always being the go-between
  • Be aware of when they're losing information in translation
  • Recognize when they're spending too much time as an intermediary

Hoarding Ideas

When PMs try to be the source of all product ideas, it can lead engineers to over-engineer things as a creative outlet. Instead, PMs should:

  • Be open to ideas from engineers and other team members
  • Recognize that engineers often have valuable product insights
  • Create opportunities for engineers to contribute to product ideation

Building Effective Platform Teams

Platform teams play a crucial role in many organizations, but they can also be a source of frustration. Camille shared several insights on building and working with platform teams effectively:

What is a Platform Team?

Platform teams develop and operate systems that manage overall complexity and deliver leverage to the business. Examples include:

  • Developer tools and CI/CD pipelines
  • Cloud infrastructure provisioning
  • Custom storage systems
  • Web and mobile frameworks
  • Integration platforms (e.g. billing systems used across multiple product lines)

When to Create a Platform Team

Camille suggests considering a dedicated platform team when:

  • You have 50+ engineers
  • There's significant ad-hoc coordination happening between engineering groups
  • Multiple teams are solving the same problems independently
  • You hit core scaling issues that require dedicated focus

However, she cautions against creating platform teams too early, as it's an investment that makes sense for more mature companies.

Structuring Platform Teams

To build effective platform teams, Camille recommends:

  1. Include software engineers, not just operations/SRE roles
  2. Hire dedicated product managers for platform teams
  3. Focus on measurable impact and outcomes, not just building cool technology
  4. Aim for a higher ratio of engineers to PMs compared to product teams

Challenges of Platform Teams

Camille highlighted several unique challenges platform teams face:

  1. Projects tend to be longer-running and more complex than typical agile product work
  2. Migrations are frequent and can be painful for other teams
  3. Stakeholder management is critical and often challenging

Career Growth for Engineers

Camille shared valuable advice for engineers looking to grow their careers:

Transitioning to Management

Before moving into management, Camille recommends:

  • Achieve technical mastery in your domain
  • Spend significant time (potentially 10+ years) writing code and solving technical problems
  • Develop internal confidence in your abilities

This is especially important for underrepresented groups in tech, as it helps combat potential biases.

Balancing Technical Skills and Leadership

For engineering leaders, Camille suggests:

  • Don't stop being hands-on until technical mastery feels ingrained
  • Focus on asking good questions and guiding decisions, rather than dictating technical details
  • Surround yourself with smart technical people and listen to them discuss challenges
  • Stay curious and keep learning about new technologies and approaches

Building a Productive Work Culture

Camille is known for creating cultures where people work hard but maintain work-life balance. Her advice includes:

  • Regularly audit your time and cut out low-value activities
  • Focus on getting important work done in fewer hours, rather than working long hours
  • Set boundaries and force yourself to log off at specific times
  • Delegate effectively to scale yourself and empower your team

Effective One-on-Ones

While Camille believes in regular one-on-ones with direct reports and managers, she cautions against having too many one-on-ones across the organization. Her advice:

  • Don't schedule one-on-ones with everyone just for the sake of it
  • Be thoughtful about whether a one-on-one is truly necessary
  • Consider group meetings or other forms of communication when appropriate
  • Respect your own time and the time of others

The Dangers of Major Rewrites

Camille warns against the temptation to completely rewrite systems, noting that:

  • Engineers often underestimate the complexity of existing systems
  • Migration time is frequently underestimated
  • Rewrites can paralyze feature development for long periods

Instead, she recommends:

  • Make thoughtful, staged plans for system improvements
  • Focus on uplifting specific components rather than full rewrites
  • Consider whether a rewrite is truly necessary if the system is functioning adequately

Leveraging AI in Work

Camille shared how she's found AI tools helpful:

  • Using ChatGPT to rephrase sentences or improve writing
  • Experimenting with AI for summarizing papers (with mixed results)

She cautions against relying on AI for quotes or factual information without verification.

Conclusion

Camille Fournier's insights offer valuable guidance for engineers, managers, and leaders in the tech industry. By focusing on effective communication, thoughtful system design, and continuous learning, teams can build better platforms and products while fostering a healthy work environment.

As the field of platform engineering continues to evolve, Camille's upcoming book "Platform Engineering: A Guide for Technical, Product, and People Leaders" promises to provide even more in-depth knowledge on this crucial area of software development.

By applying these lessons and staying curious about new developments in the field, engineering leaders can build more effective teams and drive meaningful impact in their organizations.

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